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What Happens When FEMA Buys Your House? #181323
10/11/2024 03:54 PM
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The government is buying, and sometimes seizing, homes in flood-prone areas.

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It's been a rough hurricane season. Between them, Hurricanes Helene and Milton have devastated many communities throughout the southeast. Rebuilding what was lost will take years.

But as devastating as these storms have been, they are sadly not unique. Property damage from storms and flooding is on the rise. Storms resulting in over a billion dollars in damages have become more frequent in recent years.

The prospect of repeatedly having to rebuild properties in storm-prone areas has led some governments to pursue an unusual solution to the problem: buy the properties themselves. Some local governments, in partnership with federal agencies such as the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), have developed programs that use disaster relief funds to purchase homes in flood- or storm-prone areas. This isn't the only way, or even the best way, to reduce the destruction from increasingly severe natural catastrophes. But the idea is that keeping such vulnerable properties vacant will save money in the long run because they won't need to be continually rebuilt after storms.

Such buyouts are hardly ideal and can lead to some perverse situations. In 2021, an NPR investigation revealed that HUD was selling homes in flood-prone areas to unsuspecting buyers even as it was buying out homes in the same neighborhoods under a flood mitigation program. While not ideal, in a world where government disaster relief is a given, a voluntary buyout program could make fiscal sense in some circumstances. Voluntary buyout programs have been implemented in over a thousand counties and have been used to relocate almost 50,000 households throughout the country.

The situation is very different when the buyout ceases to be voluntary. A little-known provision in the Hazard Mitigation and Relocation Assistance Act of 1993 authorizes local governments to implement a mandatory buyout program for flood-prone areas. So far, just three localities—Cedar Rapids in Iowa, Minot in North Dakota, and Harris County in Texas—have adopted a mandatory buyout program. The Harris County program is the largest of the three and is expected to forcibly purchase 585 households and 390 businesses by 2026 and turn the land into green space.

Most local governments have been wary of taking advantage of mandatory buyout authority, and for good reason. While states have the power of eminent domain and may use federal funds for this purpose under the law, the process is always fraught and ripe for abuse. With a voluntary buyout, governments must offer a purchase price high enough to entice homeowners to sell. But when the buyout is mandatory, governments have the incentive to low-ball their payments. Such programs can also raise other issues. Harris County faced accusations of discrimination since its mandatory buyout program had operated chiefly in majority-Hispanic neighborhoods while majority-white neighborhoods with similar flood risk profiles were offered voluntary buyouts or other flood mitigation options.

Instead of taking people's homes, the government should be looking for other ways to reduce flood risk. Both the federal and state governments have long encouraged development in storm-prone areas by offering below-market-rate flood insurance and other forms of assistance. These subsidies should stop, and the government should do more to make people aware of the risks faced by homeowners in vulnerable areas. Governments could also focus on increasing efforts to make vulnerable areas more resilient to storms. Research suggests that a dollar spent on resilience saves as much as $13 in avoided future losses.

Beyond these matters of dollars and cents, there is a question of values. America is a nation founded by risk-takers, where liberty and property rights are given priority. The desire to protect the lives of American citizens—as well as the public purse—is commendable, and the government should, of course, not subsidize risky behavior. But the desire for safety cannot become an excuse to force people out of their own homes.


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Re: What Happens When FEMA Buys Your House? [Re: airforce] #181324
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There are rumors that is happening in certain areas of NC. A large lithium mining co. has been trying to buy out the locals for years. They've been fighting this co. tooth and nail. The local sheriff has made it plain what will happen if fema or anyone else shows up and tries to evict the people.


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Re: What Happens When FEMA Buys Your House? [Re: airforce] #181325
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The Libertarian Party has been fighting "eminent domain" for years, ever since its inception in fact. In the South it used to be a common practice. If a company wanted the land that Blacks owned, they could, of course, offer them a decent price for their land. But why bother, if they could simply get the local government to seize their property and give it to the company (for the price of a few bribes, of course). The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Re: What Happens When FEMA Buys Your House? [Re: airforce] #181328
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Watch this one. The gov. is already talking about using imminent domain to rebuild the roads. Some places they are saying they will never rebuild.



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Re: What Happens When FEMA Buys Your House? [Re: airforce] #181329
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Eminent domain is always unfair, it's why Libertarians are always opposed to it. If you need a road to your home, you almost certainly would want someone else to pay for it. But really, why should the taxpayers pay $millions to rebuild a road to two or three homes?

If you and your friends can rebuild the road, great. Obviously, that isn't always feasible. If you can have your road insured against disasters like this, great - but again, that isn't always feasible either. And if a river has changed and your home is now cut off, there isn't much that can be done about that, either. It sucks, but there isn't always an easy answer.

It's not that I'm letting FEMA off the hook, I'd be the last one to do that. But many people are having their lives permanently changed. That's what happens when there is an Act of God such as this.

I sent $100 to Shepherd's Purse. Hope it helps.

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Re: What Happens When FEMA Buys Your House? [Re: airforce] #181331
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It's not just 2 of 3 homes. These are two lane state highways. Due to the topography they have to follow the rivers. You have a rock face on one side that goes straight up and just off the shoulder on the other side it drops off into the river. Even the railroads follow the rivers through the valleys. The little bridges going to homes are privately owned. The roadbed for these highways has been completely destroyed. The rivers have carved out new channels and are now much wider. Entire small towns have been cut off with no access to the outside world. All supplies have to be flown in by helicopter or pack mules. It's one big mess. In many cases tourism was the only source of income for these small communities. Now that's gone with the highway.

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