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Re: Rioting in Ferguson, Missouri #157681
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fibs passed out 5by7 cards asking about witnesses to the initial shooting if so fill out card with the pre defined questions include your contact information then tape to front door. So when they see the card on your front door they can collect it then contact you on follow up. the current nbpp leader on scene just got out of jail. the confab is with Eric holder and the state govenor.

cabelas evaced all weapons and ammunition it St. Louis today. cabelas ccw staff stood guard.

chatter on the hill is Ruth Bader is resigning. Eric holder may be considered her replacement. How he can be while still in contempt I don't know. But hey every one has aspirations.

911 system failed(overloaded)on the initial surge. the rollover to the rest of the county caused a bit of confusion.


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Ferguson may get interesting tonight with the curfew in place. Listened this afternoon to the live scanner feed from that area.
VERY busy, shots fired, male down, streets closed...
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Liberals have been trying to get Ginsburg to retire for some time now, but she hasn't been too keen on the idea. If Obama nominates Holder, I suspect the senate hearing will be, uh, interesting.

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I nominate Strat for Supreme Court Justice !!


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I nominate Strat for Supreme Court Justice !!
You could definitely do worse! But I wonder how many votes he would get in the Senate. smile

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If he brings his M1-A he will get all of the votes.


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In a true republic where ALL revered the constitution, and respected the rule of law... Even democrat appointees would see the danger BHO posses to our republic. Ginsburg would fear his motives, and all would seek to stay on till his term ended.

These judges are not of that pure of thought. They are ideologs that share his destructive agenda!


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NBBP is actually telling people to go home and respect the curfew. Live feed from media video.


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Nation of Islam just made an appearance in force.


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And they urged everyone to go home as well. Clever ploy from both radical parties. Then 17 minutes after midnight curfew was enforced those gathered at the burned down QT were gassed again. Several arrests were made. the gassing was announced in enough time for people to disperse. They chose not to disperse. The crowd was mixed. Blacks and whites. Hands in the air. and claiming the right to peacefully protest. I have footage plenty of it. Amazing what can get done if you want something bad enough.

Some determined protestors actually picked the hot canister's up and threw them back. . Riot gear only from the state police. And a few riot shotguns. Only vehicle security on top of the MRAPS had an M4.

all in all 34 minutes of breaking the mess up at the QT and from behind the MacDonald's. A few arrests like I said. and no one died. The reporters outside the bullpen were not arrested but a silly one got themselves gassed.

The rain dispersed much of the effects of the gas. No dogs were used or hurt during this confrontation.

Now the Ancillary actions outside the protest zone is another matter. in two hours of the scanner I heard 3 fires 2 burglaries. 2 shootings and a fight with baseball bats. and a vandalism.

when I get the rest of the raw footage I will review it to find rest of the stuff I am looking for. And that's the way it was...


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Capt. Ron Johnson held a news conference a couple hours ago.

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At a news conference about 3 a.m. on Sunday, Captain Johnson explained that some tear gas had been used because the police had learned that armed men were inside a barbecue restaurant. One man with a gun had moved to the middle of the street, Captain Johnson said, but escaped. Another man, who was not identified, was shot by an unknown assailant and taken by companions to a hospital where he was reported to be in critical condition. A police car was fired upon, Captain Johnson said, but it was not immediately clear if it was hit.
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I salute all our warriors doing and excellent job. To you fake ass - facebook posing ass won't lift a finger to help our people..... Never utter to people anything about " what we must do" " I'm down for the cause" on any of that shit you fake as a four dollar bill. And we know you and your lying ass ways.... there will be another day and posers will be physically shut down within this community with your scary asses.
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Looks like Facebook shut that guy down. NBPP looks like they have their cause now, but they are notorious for getting tied up with really unrighteousness reprisal killings against noncombatants and then working hard to bully the victims into shutting up. If the keep this between them and the police that's one improvement the new breed among them can take credit for but Alex Jones has a guy with boots on the ground there saying that racists don't really own boots on the ground side of the show.


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Red's Barbeque that call went out before the gassing and it was nowhere near the qt store. county responded to that and no armed people were found. I monitored that on the scanner. while I was watching the raw feed.

the black panther and Nation of Islam on the ground were trying to tell the police that they can police their own. And that the cops should police their own. that is what is driving the protests. the crowds kept chanting "No Justice No Peace'

As far as Michael Brown's robbery at the QT. QT reports nothing was taken other than a couple of cigars. And they did not file a report or involve the cops. When Ferguson PD said that they (QT) did the people thought that that was done to create a case for the incident that led up to the shooting. Qt insisted that they did not call the police and file a report. Ferguson PD lied and the QT store paid for it.

This is a launch point for the two organizations who are working together similar to Bundy in the operational standpoint.

the NBPP and the NOI are coordinating the protests. and from what I saw when the NBPP or NOI speaks the people listen. I watched an incident where at 1150pm a crowd had not left the MacDonald's parking lot. They refused to move. A member of the NBPP showed up and asked them to go home and get some rest. A large group did just that. The remaining few when asked by the NOI to leave did so peacefully.

The crowd at the QT was 200 strong when the GAS! GAS ! GAS! was called. they were blocking the main intersection and traffic emergency or otherwise could not get through. Florence and Chambers it looked like. Rain was hitting the camera lenses. and was coming down pretty hard. I am going to try to run a double dither on the footage I have to clear it up. I don't remember much from graphic arts or journalism classes. I pretty much slept in those because PT in the early 90's was a lot rougher that what is present in today's army.

The justice theme was Charge Officer Darren Wilson and put him in jail have an arraignment if he gets bail so be it. But from the eyewitness who reported to the fibs Wilson administered a "Coup de Gras" to Michael Brown" essentially that falls under murder. After the first few shots which under Mo. law stopped the crime. that should of been it. But walking up to Young Brown and delivering a shot while he was on the ground went to far.

The riots and looting was a bad call by angry people. a couple of looter who were interviewed said that the looting was to bring attention to the shooting. They could not get the police to investigate themselves. so by creating an event larger than what the Ferguson PD could handle they brought the Highway Patrol into the fray and the Fibbies. It was a calculated move. It really sucks that store owners had to pay for it and some may go out of business.

In overview at the rate that we are seeing a militarized police force we are going to be a dictatorship. we may not see it come to fruition in our lifetime maybe our grand kids . grandchildren will. If this keeps up we will be back under Britain's control. Again we will not see that. We will all be dead. Well Breacher might see it. He is not old. He just smells that way.


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Photos of protesters guarding stores from looters. The police were mostly sitting in their cars, watching.

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What kind of force? Any pictures? Hopefully there are not a bunch of whites getting really dumb and parading around with "we support the police" placards.


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Photos of protesters guarding stores from looters. The police were mostly sitting in their cars, watching.

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They figured out how to make the police look bad by providing security for local business. They are on the way to wielding political power and that thing about not allowing Sharpton in, that's showing a new set of rules in play.

It appears the homies have very much learned how to play. I wonder if they read the forum.

Getting back on Chawn Kweli's facebook. Some of the pictures are lifted from the manhunt just after the Boston bombing. Specifically an August 10th post where he claims live ammo was fired into the crowd.

They have hit some white owned businesses to "appropriate supplies", but are telling their people to discourage any personal attacks on whites.

This one is between them and their police problem. Its not like Bundy was asking for the BPP to show up for added backup.

I see justification for a heightened security status on a lot of things, gun shops being a big one, but no reprisals, defense and investigative action only.

Kweli has a little bit of an honesty problem with this whole "selective truth" and specific omissions, but he definitely knows the game. Functionally it looks like his people are the boots on the ground folks in charge for local action.


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They listened to J.J Thompson. And they have learned. Some are vets. I have footage of the entire event last night. I will get more but the agreement I reached was when asked to delay release until the news people had a chance to get from it what they wanted. That does not mean redact. that means professional courtesy. Their cameras their feed. No one was supporting Ferguson PD last night. the State police was another matter. they were moving freely among the crowd and were getting many hugs.

Last nights protest seemed to be about protesting the curfew nothing more. the crowd dispersed after the fifth volley of gas. some stayed around for the sixth. and a couple could be seen taking the used burned out canisters'. souvenirs? I got gassed and all I got was this empty can !

a separate crowd off to the left of the main crowd also got the gas and the sonic disruptor. they were behind the mac-Donald's. they left two. it seems only seven arrests were made. No furry animals were hurt last night which is good we do not want ALF in Ferguson.

yes the guarding of stores was put out by the NOI and BPP. they want no Black on Black or Black on White even. This is their one chance for Legitimacy and they don't want to screw it up. They do not like BHO anymore than we do.

If we remember back in the day the original BPP set up soup Kitchens, Health clinics, and book services . Only to be Shut down by the Fuckstick cross dressing bitch Hoover and His COINTEL program.

I don't care who you are if you are doing things that improve the lives of Americans as long as you do those things you are doing good. No one I mean no one should shut you down for feeding someone or healing them.

Another thing I am tired of seeing and I am seeing a lot of it is people ducking in holes and hiding. If you cant stand the first degree heat how in the hell do you expect to stand the Third Degree heat?

Sorry for the side bar now BTT.

I am listening to the scanner feed and putting a new drive in the Media PC so I can hard copy the Footage. If I can reach a good agreement. I might be able to tap the feeds on future events. This is good because we can get footage that we can analyze and determine for ourselves the real skinny.

Its 5:16 in Ferguson right now and they are switching radio watches. That's good info..


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closing florecent street down now team 66 and 67 were trying to prevent foot traffic. command told them to stop. "Political advisors" are on scene.

Census actions are checking ID's to see who lives on west florecent. Political officials arriving on scene for car 16 " The Colonel of the state police"

they are tracking the people who have wireless mics and bullhorns. time 1757 in ferguson.

Media feed went dead for awhile. will return as soon as scene/location is changed. 911 from disconnected cellphone the cellphones CNA is registered with the dispatch they have address and name of previous owner. This indicates no Stingray II on scene.


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Autopsy shows Michael Brown was shot at least six times.

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Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access....
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No powder burns. I am curious about the hand shot. A finger or two blown off would have indicated a struggle for the gun. That's what typically earns the shooter a trip out of jail, assailant has bad damage to a hand with powder burns or even a bullet injection wound. An injection wound is when the muzzle is right up against the body, so most of the spent gas also gets injected into the wound cavity. That's what can make a .32 ACP do the damage of a 12ga.

I am still on the theory the cop just went nuts. It is manslaughter and end of career turf and they might as well start being realistic about it. Suspension with a trip to a psych facility, a finding that he needs to be on happy pills, and if he decides to cash in his retirement fund and leave the country, let him go, but they are being entirely unrealistic to have that guy patrolling any streets any time after this.

I know a white guy (cough) who shot a black guy who tried a king fu gun snatch on him while illegally carrying concealed in California. They struggled over the gun, guy got mostly in control of the gun and shot homie a few times, but forensics showed powder burns, contact wounds, odd angles of bullet travel which indicated a pistol in the middle of a wrestling match.

The guy stood for trial and a fully informed mixed jury knew the score, the streets knew the score, the media knew the score, and the guy was acquitted, no riots but a few malcontents did some revenge actions which of course drew minimal police response. The government? They never let it go and pursued the guy for the rest of his life, even went after his family.

Sapper, were you referring to JJ Thompson or JJ Johnson originally of Cleveland?

I was reading through that new BPP guy's facebook (it is mostly open). He wants to do the soup kitchen and kindergarten thing again, but I don't think it will get much traction. Those things were all put up as ideas to the original BPP by the social scientists of the early 1960s to alleviate poverty, the white college kids who were students of the "new Deal" who helped form and organize what were eventually going to devolve into the street gangs of the late 1970s through early 1990s.

The thing right now, Blacks are just not that poor. Poverty does not ride in a custom Escalade with $3500 in tires and rims while wearing $350 pairs of shoes and carrying up to date automatic pistols. Poverty is not using a $600 smart phone to tweet pictures of teenagers holding wads of cash which are equal to what a cop makes in a week or a soldier makes in a month.

What I think is showing on this though, is class conflict among the blacks running parallel to some of these other issues. Around here, the Blacks are mostly on the gravy train and will do nothing to upset that action. Any BPP or NOI stuff showing up get attention strictly for nostalgia purposes. They might mistake that for "following" until they talk about doing something which would screw up the gravy train and then it gets shut down real quick.

That's where I see the police there in Ferguson just must have been out of touch for a couple decades.


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Breacher I was referring to a NOI speaker J.J who advocates educating ones self on how protests, crowd control and tactics should be applied to get the desired effects. I am going to add more right now it is the wild west in feguson multiple shots fired. people down. reporters getting guns in face by the man telling them to tourn cameras off. gasing reporters again. the shit hit the fan at 2026 Missouri time. A cop almost ran a protestor over and that was the spak. apparently he hit the baby carraige. yes tonite limited NBPP and NOI presence. over 2000 showed up. and its still going on.

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1800 video feed back on. Location burned out quik trip appx 300 people (protestors) on scene.

Police are photographing everyone. LOL the media is photographing the police.

More protestors arriving on scene. Well versed quoting Frederick Douglas and Thomas Jefferson on signs.

Crowd demographic.
Ethnicity mixed blacks whites and some Latin and Asian. Veterans in uniform not wearing crests or Unit identifiers or rank. Uniforms are in compliance with AR.

Weather is sunny looks to be no wind good time for gas and smoke. Time 1816 Missouri


and at 1817 Anonymous showed up on scene with laptops. Veterans are coordinating with Nation of Islam on scene at the quik trip site.

1821 crowd is appx 700 people

police are calm on radios seems business as usual. Confirming press credentials.

1830 appx 1200 people on scene now and growing
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flash forward to now...

I think the police on scene are going to outnumer the protestors its a numbers game. several kappa and sigma frat btrothers picked up fired bean bags and smoke gas grenade canisters.

My reporter had a CS grenade thrown into his vecile window striking the driver. Who now has a souveneir. It says Hand Ball on the side and is slighly larger than an M-67 frag all though like the m-67 it has a steel body. more to follow I have to keep the footage of site because it looks like the locals are conficating footage. I am on TOR right now on up stream and down including the video feed now.


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New technology alert on that one. The newest SONY 4k video cameras are no joke. You can see the demo units at Best Buy stores. They can pan over a crowd at a sporting event then review it later and get so much detail you could lip read people.

I am not even sure how they call it in megapixels, like 24 megapixels, in video...Still pictures, that stuff is higher resolution than cold war era spy plane stuff.

Next big step on this is not curfews, it is forced evacuations and then neighborhood sweeps. All of the players might as well make decisions now on how they plan on dealing with it.

City of Portland already has done drills on that a couple years ago. They set up that Israeli sourced computerized autocalling system which hits entire neighborhoods with public alerts and just in the testing announcement they said it was in case of an evacuation order. Most people forgot about it since nothing ever came up, but it has been in play for over two years.


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Ok barring anymore events from driving the media crazy tonite/this morning. here is everything including the press conference. The events that occured were coordinated and well planned. Officer response time had been calculated and events such as shootings would occur at a different location as soon as the police would arrive on the first scene. Molotov Cocktails were deployed against the state police command post at 2056 hours.

at 2100 hours Oriellys auto-Walgreens-Dominos pizza- Family dollar- T-mobil And MCDonalds were all swarmed and looted, Vandalized or set on fire.

2105 Officers responding to a call came under Harrassing Fire.

2026 hours shots fired
2027 shots fired
2028 shots fired
2258 shots fired
2301 shots fired
2308 shots fired
2313 shots fired
2323 shots fired
2334 shots fired
2335 shots fired
2348 shots fired
2354 shots fired
2355 shots fired


27 injuries and 3 shootings no police shootings it was civvy on civvy

2330 police almost shot undercover officers

The confernce that gov.nixon had with the state police col and the state police captian as well as the county. was that additional resources will be brought to bear in light of what happened tonite. The Nasty guard is not off of the table. But the State police captain refused to rule it out.
right now 5 different police jurisdictions have been observed on scene this is based off of cars and uniforms spotted.

other things of note;;;; cinder block piles in roads to slow responding officers down

news cameras picked up the micro surveillance cameras the fibbies put in place at several second floor windows on florecent street and canfield

fire department could not clear the wal greens due to drug fumes

delwood liqour store looted and set on fire


A member of Captain Todds detachment really screwed up. He went bonkers on a reporter. With finger on trigger he put his M-4 in the reporters face and threatened to I qoute" Shoot you with this. If you dont turn that fucking camera off" Caught on several news cams .

The point was made NBPP and NOI planned this .

We will see what tomorrow brings.

And thats the way it was.


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It looks like most - but not all - of those reported gunshots were actually fireworks. Gov. Nixon has called in the National Guard. Police are saying last night's violence was "pre-planned." And the Black Panthers are blaming "agents and provocateurs" for last night's violence. From Kweli:

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Ferguson Report:
JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL BROWN IS IN JEOPARDY

ACTIONS OF FOOLS AND AGENTS ARE DRIVING SUPPORT FOR THE POLICE UP ........AND DRIVING SUPPORT FOR THE DEMONSTRATORS DOWN

SABOTAGE IS IN FULL EFFECT

THEREFORE WE ARE CALLING FOR A FIVE DAY
PAUSE TO GET REFOCUSED

THE CALL IS FOR

1. The arrest of officer Darren Wilson

2. Demilitarization of the police and national guard

3. Isolation of agents and provocateurs

4 better security and crowd control
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In MO when floods or tornado's hit a community, there are generally road blocks setup into the affected area. The only ones allowed to enter are residents and responders, often for up to week.

Perhaps this approach needs be implemented, keep out the non-residents. Anyone not from Ferguson is welcome to start protests in their community. At least till some cooling down happens.

There has been quite a few people calling for the Missouri Militia to go into Ferguson, below is a partial paste from one email -
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I can assure you that you would have been met with great joy, surprise, and
support by the community if you had have launched an operation to engage and
make a visual stand for them. It would have went down in history and never been
forgotten. You would have turned the tide in the war but you chose to stand
down. It is absolutely disgraceful and shameful. I just watched the video of
your liaison giving his reasoning for turning down such an opportunity to bring
it all together and it was not sufficient I'm sorry. It brings tears to my eyes
to see RIGHT NOW on TV breaking news that tear gas is being deployed again and
you are missing this opportunity.
Met with great joy ??? I SERIOUSLY doubt that, suspicion, hostility perhaps. From LE in other parts of the state, St Louis area LE is not well known for good race relations. Bundy asked for help, to my knowledge not so in Ferguson.

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...St Louis area LE is not well known for good race relations. Bundy asked for help, to my knowledge not so in Ferguson.
Law enforcement in that area is not well known for making wise choices either, and there's little indication they will do so in the near future. The feds in Nevada eventually backed down; the police in Ferguson seem to be doing everything they can to provoke a massacre.

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There is constant threatening and taunting when the crowds get near the cops. The "boy" was 6ft4" and 300 lbs. Others are saying he "bum rushed the cop".

Violence related incidents are relevant, especially if they were going on the same day but this reached the point where the cop either needs to leave the country or they suspend him and throw this at a jury with a trial for first degree manslaughter. If he tells a convincing tear jerk story from the witness stand, with lots of examples of how he helped rescue some poor little old black lady's cat from trees, carried little brown children across the Rio grande himself, gave other children rids home from school during blizzards and hurricanes, has a black auntie who raised him as a kid.... then he walks.

Either way, the lawyer is going to have to convince more than just a judge or prosecutor in a back room. It's public, might as well live with that. You can't have that guy back on patrol on their streets. Even here in Oregon, after a questionable shoot, they suspend the guy for a little while then hire him in a different town. Over there in Missouri, they are just being too much in the communities face about it.

This is going to escalate to an evacuation order. I can smell it.

They will do that mass automated call announcing the evacuation ahead of time along with an after dark curfew. Cordons will be set up with hard core checkpoints. Visibly, letting people through, but they will announce the checkpoint closure times, and when the checkpoints close, you can leave but not enter. Those leaving get searched. Some may be allowed to re-enter, like to remove the elderly or disabled once their identity is fully verified and their intentions are vouched for.

The checkpoints will be pourous at first, then the noose tightens. What they are after is of course the "foreign fighters". A few days later, the evacuation order will go through, probably to coincide with the arrival of the National Guard. National guard will take over checkpoints and refugee centers which are for people who got evacuated, and those will be fairly well equipped but will also have riot police on standby and run like a low security prison.

Then teams will swarm into the neighborhoods door to door, enforcing the evacuation, confiscating any weapons they find, and at night, those turn in to death squads, mainly looking to mix it up with the "foreign fighters".

Then cleanup groups move in. Placing or displacing evidence, maybe a month after clearing operations, people will then be allowed back in gradually.

This is going to be like Katrina in a lot of ways, except entirely a man made disaster. They have been planning for this a long time, just looking for an event and location to test it out. I think Ferguson Missouri will be that location and the time is this month and well into October.


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The Associated press is reporting Gov. Nixon has lifted the curfew for tonight . The National Guard deployed there will be under the command of the Missouri Highway Patrol. I'm honestly not sure how that is going to work, but maybe it will prevent another Kent State-type shooting.

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Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon is lifting a curfew while ordering the National Guard to help restore order in a St. Louis suburb that has seen sometimes violent protests since the fatal police shooting of an unarmed black teenager.

Nixon deployed the Guard Monday following an overnight clash between armored police and what he called "a violent criminal element intent upon terrorizing the community." (...)
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yes the NG has been told to stand up. I dont know if I will have news feed tonite. one camera was broke last night and another confiscated. So we will see what happens. The station is trying to get one on loan I reckon those things are insured. But who is going to deliver or even claims adjust in that area right now ?

The surprising fctor in all of this is despite the anger and rhetoric no one has shot an officer. If and when that happens the gloves are off..


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They will go easy for a few days as they map out where the cordon will be and set up the plan for the checkpoints. Letting people come and go, but strongly hinting that "something is coming" and that if you don't want trouble, stay gone.

They are most likely going over video footage of the riots and will be setting up a cordon and search operation. Once the cordon planning is all set up, the roadblocks, evacuation and tactical door to door operations will last from several hours to a few days.

This will be a critical stage, as they are likely backing off. The curfew was a joke anyway, the real anti-riot curfews tend to be dusk to dawn.

I would be advising people to set up their own evacuation plans, and if they plan on evacuating armed, pre-position weapons where you would want them to be once everything gets locked down. Once they lock down the cordon, people going in and out will be searched at roadblocks and you can bet weapons will be grabbed at those roadblocks.


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More discussion on the autopsy, the fatal wound was in the top of the head. Someone explain how that happens when the target is running on flat ground.

This is starting to look like truth was a casualty in this fight pretty early on. Everyone is lying about this and we don't really know what happened. That "witness" is telling a good story, which is a story which is inconveniently inconsistent with the forensic situation. The cops just act guilty on this.

I'll reference the earlier posting, none of this is worth the blood of our people. The cops and hood rats are itching to game on with each other. Get out of the way and let them but I am not going to take the morally irresponsible position of egging it on and retransmitting misrepresented facts.


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None of the statements by the two main witnesses can be counted on. they do not jive with the wound patterns as you say. And 80% of eyewitness testimony is usually wrong anyway. What we do know is that a young man is dead. A police department handled everything wrong. And the town wants answers. The population in that area is being taken advantage of by forces who do not live there.

Bullies are bad for business and the town is paying the price. absolutely nothing we can do. expect learn from the event. And don't walk down the middle of the street in Ferguson.


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will be setting up a cordon and search operation. Once the cordon planning is all set up, the roadblocks, evacuation and tactical door to door operations will last from several hours to a few days.
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Once they lock down the cordon, people going in and out will be searched at roadblocks and you can bet weapons will be grabbed at those roadblocks.
It is one thing for an evacuation to be ordered it is another thing to evacuate people who don't want to be evacuated.

If enough people say NO we are not leaving then what?

And what if people resist any tactical door to door operation?

And what if people refuse to surrender their arms at the roadblocks when they are trying to evacuate?

Question: how far is the Governor willing to go if residents refuse to leave or surrender their weapons?

Question: if force is used against residents who refuse to comply and worse yet if deadly force is used and any residents are shot or even killed what could the results be?

Could this situation in Ferguson, escalate and expand beyond Ferguson, even into St Louis?


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Attorney General Eric Holder will go to Ferguson on Wednesday. That's going to solve everything.

A couple years ago I was told that if I didn't vote for Obama, there would be race riots in America. AND THEY WERE RIGHT!!

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will be setting up a cordon and search operation. Once the cordon planning is all set up, the roadblocks, evacuation and tactical door to door operations will last from several hours to a few days.
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Once they lock down the cordon, people going in and out will be searched at roadblocks and you can bet weapons will be grabbed at those roadblocks.
It is one thing for an evacuation to be ordered it is another thing to evacuate people who don't want to be evacuated.

If enough people say NO we are not leaving then what?

And what if people resist any tactical door to door operation?

And what if people refuse to surrender their arms at the roadblocks when they are trying to evacuate?

Question: how far is the Governor willing to go if residents refuse to leave or surrender their weapons?

Question: if force is used against residents who refuse to comply and worse yet if deadly force is used and any residents are shot or even killed what could the results be?

Could this situation in Ferguson, escalate and expand beyond Ferguson, even into St Louis? [/b]
I am sure all of those questions are being speculated on in the fusion centers right now, and every single "answer" is speculative. Nobody knows and this is new ground to cover.

I know this; we sure as hell never picked that as a battlefield. I would tell my friends to prep for evacuation to protected enclaves immediately. The only reason things are calm right nos is to give the targets a little time to relax and think they have won.

The government is massively processing their intelligence data right now and setting up the plan. I am sure it might still be called off, but the question over the next few days will revolve around whether or not any police get attacked in a paramilitary fashion which is attributable to the BPP or some other outside targeted group.

The selling point on the operation will be some fairly comfortably set up refugee centers with free money handouts, free everything, and lots of local leaders being sold on the idea of assisting in the search for "outside troublemakers".

This thing is one great big test case drill. I can't really prove it, but my sense about this is screaming it loud and clear.


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This thing is one great big test case drill. I can't really prove it, but my sense about this is screaming it loud and clear.
Brother I also have a gut feeling that you are correct.

There is a curse: May you live in interesting times.

Well this point in time is sure interesting.


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And the instigators show time now. Ferguson and Florissant.st. Telling people to ignore the NG when they show up.


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three white guys with a bullhorn started this shit tonight. nice its on film. Its own now sonic cannons and wait for it... The press saw this and is making a human shield.
and Antonio French just saved a white mans life. the cops are egging it on. increasing the volume of the sonic cannons. trying to drown out the voice of the clergy.

looks like the alderman is going to get it. Cop0s outnumber protestors. more after I get some substance


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St Louis county police are instigating this even further.. County is encircling and creating a containment perimeter. the local are surrounded in a 1/2 mile area. Protestors realize they have been played are calming down. Gestapo are getting frustrated that they cannot use todays supplies of gas. County police has already masked. State police have not given the command to mask yet.

County has broke out M-4's state nothing. State is asserting control over county making police line move back. as the alderman moves the protestors back. The people who started this are on tape with Sharpton earlier looks calm now


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I\'m watching the live feed here. Troopers just arrested a young lady, though I'm not clear why. It sure took enough of them to do it.

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