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Originally posted by drjarhead:
That is an interesting take.

Anyone who would willingly walk into a govt camp is a fool amongst fools.
Not necessarily if they are already for whatever reasons in the welfare class and have been told they no longer get cash benefits and the only help they will get is a chow hall pass and FEMA trailer, then get told they have mandatory meetings and interviews for work assignments. Failing that, they get evicted from the camp, or the camp resources get moved elsewhere and it will be allowed to decline on its own. That program is not exactly very different from my own survivalist retreat management program.

If this is the camp-to-bunker program that I think it is, and given what I have been seeing on Youtube about that deal at the Denver airport and then those big underground facilities in the central US, then yeah, I sort of have this sickening feeling on what this is about. Thing is, it is based on information that I think is still speculative in nature.

Think about it, those of us running a retreat during SHTF, are you really going to let every stranger refugee just wander in fully armed? Sure I support RKBA and all, but my personal place if I am in charge, we are talking bartertown rules. Strangers check their hardware in at the gate then can enter the sterile zone for trade, and even then, a secondary gate security system is in place where they don't go into resident housing areas which are again, sectioned off somehow.

If we are talking about people we already know from the net or other contacts, that's another matter, but outright strangers looking to be housed, fed, and defended? Prove your worth, you get more, bring more to the table, you get more, show up just in "need" because you did not like the FEMA camp rules about no alcohol and drugs, no, I don't want my camp full of drunks and tweekers either just because the drunks and tweekers want to talk the talk and be handed a rifle, militia jacket with patches, and warm bed to sleep in. Show up like that, sure, you get a cot in the lean-to by the bonfire, that's about it. My personal plan would be to filter in and out of such places seeing if there is anyone worthwhile to join my crew, which means having some positive relations with whoever is running a particular camp. I figure half the operations we would be running in the earlier phases of any SHTF refugee camp situation are getting the right people together and then reuniting the broken families and getting things situated at our own location. Then and only then do you start setting priorities on external combat operations.

Would I run it in a libertarian? Sure for the most part, if you can handle yourself and your habits, but that means the same basic thing: a filtering camp system. Anyone can get into the external filtering camp, but nobody gets to the final resource center without fully proving themselves.

I was involved with a few different survival retreat type places in the 1990s in California, most of them ended up in utter faliure for a number of reasons. I hate to admit it, but I did a lot of note comparisons on the subject with an officer in my NG unit who was also a fairly high ranking FEMA guy back then and might be in charge of a pretty big chunk of FEMA by now. I think I have a handle on how they would actually be doing this if it is survival related and not entirely some NWO "execute everyone" conspiracy deal.


It is a smaller country than some people think and I hate to admit how many people from the other side of the fence I once knew on a civil basis, but the choices which put me here were not really mine to make when it all boiled down to it.


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