As far as a lot to be suspicious about that is true for all Clubs, Societies, and Organizations that either have secrets or simply that not much is know about them.

So what you said about the Masons would also be true for the K of C (Knights of Columbus) so why don't you and others also post negative things about them?

Oh by the away the Masons are not a Secret Society or Club they are just a Society or Club with Secrets

I used to be a Member of an Outlaw Motorcycle Club, and there were things that we did not talk to outsiders about, and one of my friends worked at a major Defense Contractor and was very high up and must have had a fairly high Security Clearance and he did not talk about a lot of things and he even left the Country without telling even his family that he was going to leave, so does that mean anything more or less then the Masons, K of C or even my Biker Gang or even the Famous or Infamous, depending on your viewpoint, Hells Angels keeping some things Secret.

So what is the big deal about that?

Just because someone is a Mason or in the K of C does not mean that they all believe the same way about all issues, especially Politics and Religion. Well actually in the Case of the K of C since they are all Catholics they should all believe the same or close to it about religion.

And how about the members of this board or Patriots in general, do we all believe the same on all issues?

Now where did you get that idea from?

So lets see.

So do you mean that the Masonic Founding Fathers had an Arrangement with General Gage or did this Arrangement go even higher and maybe went all the way to an Arrangement between the Evil Masonic Founding Fathers and the Evil King George.

So who was this Arrangement between?

Fact: a person who belongs to the same Club, Organization, Society, or Group or even only wears a Ring from the Same School, will usually be given preferential treatment or treated better then a person who does not belong to the same Club etc.

This applies to Masons the same as it applies to Brothers of a College Fraternity or Brothers of the K of C or Between men who wear a Trident Ring meaning Navy SEALS etc.

By the way the handshake is not the only way for one Mason to know another man is a Mason and it is a Fact that during the Revolution being a Mason saved more then one mans life since a Mason would not want to kill a Brother Mason any more then a member of the K of C would want to kill a Lodge Brother.

So the truth is there is nothing suspicious about a Mason giving special deals of helping a brother Mason out of trouble.

As you might have guessed I am a Mason and my friends who are Masons and Shriners are not Evil People out to dominate the World and they are not all rich or powerful

So lets see.

It takes money to Join the Masons and it takes money for yearly dues so it is no wonder that a poor out on his ass person would not be able to become a Mason in the first place.

Also since a Mason will help another Mason, there would be nothing suspicious if there were no poor Masons.

If you think that all Masons are rich or powerful you are very very very mistaken.

One of my Masonic friends is an Officer in the Merchant Marine and even though he is not poor he is not rich and he works long hours for his money.

Another of my Masonic friends is a real Stone Mason, meaning he is a Construction Worker so he is not rich.

And I am Mason and I am very far from being rich and I am very close to being a poor, out-on-his-ass Mason.

Friend do you have any idea of what a real working Mason actually is?

And do you also believe that there is Evil behind the names that are written on the Structural Steel of Buildings by Ironworkers. Or maybe a Christian carving or placing a mark of a Cross or a Fish on a building or a structure that he is or has finished building. Oh I almost forgot, how about that little thing from World War Two, Kilroy Was Here.

Dang sorry that you were so unlucky that all the Bad, Rotten, Son of a B*tch Masons were not only in your area but were members of your Family. Sorry just kidding.

Now the truth is that every group of people on this earth maybe even in this Universe is going to have some Bad Apples and that is true of Masons as it is true of the K of C, School Teachers, Boy Scout Scout Masters, and even The Tea Party or people who refer to themselves as Patriots, and this sadly most likely even includes some member of this board.

So what does all the stuff you posted about Masons mean?

Well to me it and hopefully to most logical people it means absolutely nothing.

You have not met any logical standard of proof and all of what you posted is either rumors, or conjecture.

And you should be very concerned about only posting proven facts and truths or at least opinions that are logical since it is a truth that if a person posts something as fact or a proven truth and people reading it know enough about the subject in question to know that what was posted is not true or at least has not been proven true then the person who posted it can lose credibility.

And you have lost some credibility with me because of what you have posted about Masons.

See the thing is if you are wrong about Masons then you could be wrong about other thing or even everything.

One last thing I am very very open minded and if there is ever any real evidence or proof that the Masonic Lodge is in some way Evil or an Enemy of our Republic then I want to see it and if I believe it is true and factual then I am willing to reconsider my position and even consider not being a Mason or in supporting them in any way.